Curse

I Rahavan I · Apr 19, 2012, 06:07 AM // 06:07

I'm going to keep this short and sweet (or not).

The dishonorable that is given to people who "stand" around in PvP shouldn’t exist (I'm talking about the one you get if you aren’t reported). It doesn't full fill its purpose. If I was really leaching 10mins is NOTHING to deter me and to people who were actually playing it's not fair.

Anet please get rid of this it is useless and aggravating.

Dewshine Wildclaw · Apr 19, 2012, 07:46 AM // 07:46

And how exactly does/can this bother you? Unless you of.c. is one of those that stand still a bit too much...

drkn · Apr 19, 2012, 09:02 AM // 09:02

If you're standing in one place, doing nothing, you are leeching. AFKing with several accounts at once during JQ matches only to generate Imp and Balth faction is NOT cool and frequent abusers should be banned, even if only temporarily, not just dishonored.

superraptors · Apr 19, 2012, 09:52 AM // 09:52

only aggravating thing i find about dishonor is that you aren't allowed to leave when you got idiots on your team(mostly RA).

HigherMinion · Apr 19, 2012, 10:36 AM // 10:36

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Originally Posted by superraptors

only aggravating thing i find about dishonor is that you aren't allowed to leave when you got idiots on your team(mostly RA).

That's clearly what he's getting at... It's pretty dumb, though. Just fight it out. It's called Random Arenas because it doesn't always spit out perfect teams. I don't see how so many people want to grind that title to max, because it ain't gonna max before gw2, kids. Have fun with the arena and report leechers and those fags who stand still when "all is lost".

Jeydra · Apr 19, 2012, 10:40 AM // 10:40

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Originally Posted by superraptors

only aggravating thing i find about dishonor is that you aren't allowed to leave when you got idiots on your team(mostly RA).

Aka. how to get aggravated by not being allowed to do the exact thing dishonour is supposed to prevent ...

/notsigned for reasons given prior.

superraptors · Apr 19, 2012, 11:03 AM // 11:03

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Originally Posted by HigherMinion

That's clearly what he's getting at... It's pretty dumb, though. Just fight it out. It's called Random Arenas because it doesn't always spit out perfect teams. I don't see how so many people want to grind that title to max, because it ain't gonna max before gw2, kids. Have fun with the arena and report leechers and those fags who stand still when "all is lost".

oh right because this game isn't supposed to be competitive is it? everyone wants to win regardless if you have the perfect team or not and you can't win with idiots.

secondly someone has already achieved max glad.

thirdly no one is talking about titles.

the dishonor system should only be made for leecher's that's all and shouldn't punish the people who actually want to play that includes not wanting to play with idiots who are still stuck in 2005 using firestorm on rangers and flare on warriors, or both.

chullster · Apr 19, 2012, 11:18 AM // 11:18

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Originally Posted by HigherMinion

I don't see how so many people want to grind that title to max, because it ain't gonna max before gw2, kids.

RA title has already been maxed by someone from one of the original RA sync guilds zulu.

Not much of an achievement considering that guild used to and many others still stack the teams in their favour.

In the easiest arena in the game, it's comical.

Lordkrall · Apr 19, 2012, 11:18 AM // 11:18

RA was never supposed to be competitive. It was always RANDOM. For competitive PvP we had Team Arena, and still have HA and GvG.

Gabs88 · Apr 19, 2012, 11:21 AM // 11:21

Stood around in aspenwood healing turtle a full round keeping 2 guys at bay trying to kill it. Dishonorable! (we won) 5 min break

Stood around messing with a turtle tank, nobody came to help me and we had 2 afkers so had to have turtles to win. Dishonorable. 5 min break

Reported said two leechers couple of rounds later, only me and 1 other guy reported them, hence we got the dishonor points. Dishonorable. 5 min break

Sensing a pattern? The dishonor system is broken beyond all belief.

Actually, thinking about it the turtle tank i mentioned earlier probably must've gotten dishonorable as well. After all, he only tanked 2 turtles for a full round? That's not contributing to the victory at all!

Aeronwen · Apr 19, 2012, 03:03 PM // 15:03

Also, standing by a gatekeeper with amber waiting for the green gate to fall can be a game winning tactic. Clearly whoever implemented this does not actually play the game.

Coast · Apr 19, 2012, 03:15 PM // 15:15

solution for ra: remove gladpoints+ boxes,put back ta and put the rewards in ta
solved

Missing HB · Apr 19, 2012, 04:55 PM // 16:55

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Originally Posted by Coast

solution for ra: remove gladpoints+ boxes,put back ta and put the rewards in ta
solved

Probably the best solution, although everyone's agreeing with it for 3 years almost now.

I can conceive that RA is random, so you have to deal with bad players, elitist players, etc.. But the fact is there are people trying to sync the title. It's not really fun when you have 4 melees for an hour while some others are syncing their title. Superraptors does have a point here.

The same applies for Codex . It's supposed to be played with 4 humans against 4 humans, but people are going through the rule with multiple accounts.

Worse : rollerbeetle racing. Players are going in with multiple accounts again to get top scores and the reward, while you get dishonor if you leave the match. What's the logic in this...

Rules are fine when everyone respect these.

Lanier · Apr 19, 2012, 05:14 PM // 17:14

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Originally Posted by superraptors

oh right because this game isn't supposed to be competitive is it? everyone wants to win regardless if you have the perfect team or not and you can't win with idiots.

I mean... its supposed to be random. Thus you are supposed to, from time to time, have "idiots" (as you call them) in your team. If anet really intended it to be competitive, there would be a team-forming aspect (like the old TA) as opposed to a random-formation aspect.

I (and everyone else it seems) like the idea that has been floating around forever of restoring TA and putting the 4v4 rewards into that format. That way, people like superraptors don't have to play with "idiots" (and "idiots" dont have to play with them...).

superraptors · Apr 19, 2012, 10:13 PM // 22:13

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Originally Posted by Lordkrall

RA was never supposed to be competitive. It was always RANDOM. For competitive PvP we had Team Arena, and still have HA and GvG.

random team setup =/= not competitive

ha = dead
gvg = dead except for ats

and also 4v4 =/= 8v8 formats

hush buddy.

MithranArkanere · Apr 19, 2012, 11:03 PM // 23:03

There is absolutely no reason to stand still doing nothing in PvP.

Period.

Andemius · Apr 20, 2012, 02:08 AM // 02:08

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Originally Posted by MithranArkanere

There is absolutely no reason to stand still doing nothing in PvP.

Period.

And if you get a team full of bots in JQ? 5-0 down and nothing you can do to win or gain points?

I see no reason for you to be standing around otherwise though.

Lordkrall · Apr 20, 2012, 05:54 AM // 05:54

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Originally Posted by superraptors

random team setup =/= not competitive

ha = dead
gvg = dead except for ats

and also 4v4 =/= 8v8 formats

hush buddy.

A random setup can NEVER be considered as real competitive. Seeing as, guess what, it is RANDOM so people are not on even footing. In order to be on even footing you will need to have same possible teams as the other side.

A team with 4 warriors will most likely never win against a team with an ele, a mesmer, a monk and necro.

superraptors · Apr 20, 2012, 07:20 AM // 07:20

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Originally Posted by Lordkrall

A random setup can NEVER be considered as real competitive. Seeing as, guess what, it is RANDOM so people are not on even footing. In order to be on even footing you will need to have same possible teams as the other side.

A team with 4 warriors will most likely never win against a team with an ele, a mesmer, a monk and necro.

you are thick.

random team setup has nothing to do with being competitiveness(you should look up the definition of 'competition') to begin with.

BOTH teams have a RANDOM setup therefore they should be on an even footing, apparently the really idiotic players(you are probably one of them, no offense intended) puts this out of balance.

fyi if a team of warriors in an at can win, then they can certainly win in ra.

before you spew anymore crap and lowering everyones iq, just think before you post.

Lordkrall · Apr 20, 2012, 08:01 AM // 08:01

Love the apparent need to attack everyone not thinking the exact same way as you.

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competitive - involving competition or competitiveness; "competitive games"; "to improve one's competitive position"

You do not improve your "competitive position" in a random game, seeing as there are no real goal, and no real winner.

Of course both are random, and that also means it can't be seen as "real" competition". Good luck finding a e-sport/other competition that consists of two completely RANDOM groups.
Haha, calling me a "really idiotic player" and then saying that you mean no offense? Funny really.

The thing is however at an AT the team is SYNCED with each other, which is not the case in a RANDOM setup.